2018 Agendas and Minutes
Balloch and Haldane Community Council
Balloch & Haldane Community Council
Minute of 7th February 2018 General Meeting,
held at 10am in the National Park HQ, Balloch.
1. SEDERUNT.
Community Councillors: Murdoch Cameron MBE, Chair; Jim Biddulph, Secretary; Alan
Gardner, Treasurer; Alistair Bouttell, Jan Shields, Gillian Clark, Theresa Hollywood, David
Keown, Ian Gurr MBE, Alan Sorrell & Jim McQueen.
Apologies: Andrew McAulay.
Attending: Suzanne Greer, WDC, Community Council Liaison Officer. 3 members of the public.
Chairman’s Remarks. He welcomed all present to the first meeting of 2018 adding that he had an accident in January resulting in him experiencing first class service at the Vale of
Leven Hospital and the Royal Alexandra Paisley that reinforced the importance of retaining our hospital. J.McQ agreed to take minute as secy would be talking on agenda items.
2. MINUTES.
Adoption of the December 2nd 2017 Minute proposed by Ian Gurr seconded by Jan Shields.
3. Matters Arising.
The Secretary referred to the list of points raised under AOCB at the December meeting most of which were covered by advice given on the day.
Those not answered included posting of our Secretary’s comments on the Iconic Leisure Development that is not considered appropriate at present due to lack of planning submission having been made to date. However, secy stated the December minutes contain our comments to ILD.
Most were simply noted for future consideration as appropriate when proposed events and changes to the village are being planned.
3A. CORRESPONDENCE RELATING TO DECEMBER MEETING.
The matter relating to an offensive word being said at the December meeting by a CC member when discussing SEPA was taken first. Secy read out the 2 letters of complaint received regarding offensive language. Chair then read out the following statement.
“As chairman of B&HCC, along with my fellow community councillors, we deeply regret and apologize for the unfortunate turn of phrase used by a member of this CC at our last meeting on 6thDecember 2017. This was out of character for the member. After warming him to be very careful with his choice of words at future debates, he assures me that this will not happen again.
Unfortunately he is unable to attend today’s meeting to apologize in person. The matter has been dealt with by the community council and the matter is now closed.”
No comments were made by CC members when sought by Chairman.
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3B. REPORTS.
Police Report.
No Police Report was available. The Chair will contact a senior police officer as there is concern that the current deployment system for officers may be the cause of the intermittent supply of reports.
Inler Park.
The £600k project has been held up by SEPA expressing concern on the area of bunding (embankment) proposed. The Architect working for the Environment Trust has changed the plan and is awaiting a response from SEPA. This delay has put funding at risk as the project must be started by 31st March 2018, if not the funding will be lost and the project will be aborted. The Environmental Trust Manager is understood to be pushing hard to ensure that the all involved are aware of the need for prompt action including WDC planning who need to give permission before work can start. Alan Sorrel stressed the importance of this project to the Haldane and urged all involved to highlight the urgency and requested that an update should be made available at our meeting on 7th March, this was agreed.
Balloch Buddies.
JS & GC expressed frustration with the responses that they have been getting from the public and the WDC bureaucracy. The WDC concerns include feedback from Greenspace on “Duck Feeding Posters” and their request for a notice board. The question of how best to pursue this was discussed.
Susan Greer recommended they contact “Your Community” at WDC as community empowerment is within their remit and they can make staff available to help with community projects. The Chair suggested that a meeting with Ian Bain may help. JS & GC will consider the proposals made.
European Championships.
The European Open Water Swimming Championships will be held at Drumkinnon Bay on Wednesday 8th, Thursday 9th, Saturday 11th & Sunday 12th August in the mornings.
The National Park are taking the lead on making the most of the event to attract visitors to Balloch and provide a festival feel by putting on various events to help raise the profile of Balloch as a place to visit. Saturday 11th August is seen a day where something along the lines of the Balloch Fair with a parade and bands playing with carnival attractions were suggested including:
Scottish opera trailer, a youth orchestra that has NP connections, Music programme, Heritage displays, open air dancing, use of the Aquarium theatre, traditional music, Pipe Band, Pianos placed at strategic places on the route to the event. There is also an opportunity to put on supporting events to show off the sports and pass-times in our area as well as a wide range of cultural activities where Charlie can call for the support of national organisations.
Charlie Croft is the Chairman of the Cultural Programme Group & Mairi Bell of Bell Consultancy is working closely with him, they can be contacted at NPHQ Carrochan. Your suggestions and proposals should be passed to them as soon as possible.
The backers of the Euro Championships intend to encourage people to travel to Balloch by train, advising that no extra parking provision will be made.
AS suggested that a dog training group could put on a display.
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The next meeting of the Cultural Programme Steering Group will be on Wednesday 21st February.
PM note: Further information on the proposed supporting event has been forwarded to all CC members.
4. PLANNING PROCEDURE FOR ICONIC LEISURE DEVELOPMENT.
The Secretary described the steps in the planning permission process that will be followed, advising of the need to be alert to the short periods of time available to respond.
• Comments must be submitted within 21 days of submission.
• Comments/letters/complaints submitted after the closing date will not be considered, unless time is extended.
• National Park issue a weekly list of submissions, see link:
http://www.lochlomond-trossachs.org/planning/planning-applications/find-an-application/weeklyplanning-lists-2018/
• The Community Council can apply to have a delay of two weeks to allow for discussion and hold a public meeting.
• We will not know the National Park view until ten days before the planning meeting.
• If we ask to speak at the Planning Meeting, we will be limited to a few minutes.
The Secretary advised that letters received by the CC will be reviewed and where they do not contradict the adopted designations in the National Park policy documents they will be forwarded.
The Secretary advised that Ms.J.Ballie our MSP had asked for the National Park view on the ILD, but they indicated that they were unable to give her any information until the plan was submitted.
Secy pointed out that the CC vote on an application on whether to support, object or neither support nor object. The latter leaving the NP Planning Board to approve or not approve the application. A reason is given by the CC in all cases.
5. RIVERSIDE WALKWAY.
The provision of a Walkway on the West Riverside that formed a key element of the Charrette outcomes, “A strong link connecting the village, the West riverside site, the pier and Loch Lomond Shores is of critical importance for Balloch”. Information gleaned from ILD indicates that they are content with public access through the site, broadly along the line of the existing path and cycle route is their current thinking.
Outcomes of the ILD public presentation has resulted in their moving the hotel back from the Drumkinnon Bay beach and abandoning their plan for a tower although they still hope to have an alternative major attraction. Pier Road will not have barriers erected our Chair advised.
The Secretary advised that the information that reached us indicating that SEPA had advised ILD not to touch the riverbank had been mis-interpreted somewhere before reaching us. On contacting SEPA
Dumfries office, currently dealing with the River Leven, they advised that did not want buildings on stilts or more pontoons on the river but did not rule out work on the bank. This being the case it is unlikely that the suggestion to leave a riverside margin out of the sale to ILD will not need to be pursued if a riverside lit walkway is on future plans.
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As the Charrette was being discussed JMQ advised that because of an enquiry on progress with the Village Square project, a Charrette update meeting will take place on Monday 19th March, which he will attend.
6. TREASURER’S REPORT.
Balance at end of January 2018 -------- £3,022.69
No outstanding invoices.
7. CORRESPONDENCE.
Balloch Infrastructure. Acknowledgement received from WDC.
Ms. J. Bailie MSP. Covered under ILD planning.
Luss Road Flooding. Thanks, from Mr. Hull. (DMK, cleared flood; also thanked by WDC)
Mr. R. Greer MSP. ILD Comments.
WDC Consultation Report on Library (from 29/917). Alan S will pursue the effect of reduced hours on non-computer owner’s ability to contact Government Departments.
Grant application to National Park for framework on MofL paddle box was unsuccessful because no one could be found to do the work.
Other correspondence regarding the Flamingo Land development was received and already mentioned.
Letter to SE regarding riverside walkway and concern that it did not appear on any plans for West riverside.
8. AOCB.
Chairs questions from the public. It was asked if we could delay an application now. Secy stated that until the application comes in, nothing can be decided.
9. DONM
March 7th in NPHQ at 10am.
Agenda
for Balloch & Haldane Community Council
meeting Wednesday 7th March 2018 at 10.00 am till 12.00 noon
in National Park HQ, Carrochan, Balloch.
AGENDA
Chairs welcome
1. Sederunt and Apologies
2. Minutes of Last Meeting
3. Matters arising
4. POLICE and other REPORTS
5. RIVERSIDE LIT Walkway ACTION (Form sub committee) Inler Park Action regarding SEPA’s slow reply to amended plans
6. TREASURER’S REPORT
7. Correspondence & Feedback from CC’s regarding Council papers
8. AOCB
9. DATE OF NEXT MEETING
March Meeting 2018
Balloch & Haldane Community Council
Minute of 7th March 2018 General Meeting held at 10.00 am in National Park HQ, Balloch
1. SEDERUNT: Community Councillors: Murdoch Cameron (MBE) Chair; Jim Biddulph, Secretary; Alan Gardner , treasurer, Jim McQueen, Jan Shields, Gillian Clark, David Keown, Theresa Hollywood, Ian Gurr (MBE), Alan Sorrell.
Apologies: Alistair Bouttell, Andrew McAulay
Attending: PC Raymond Borland + Community Sergeant, Police Scotland.
Sally Page, Lomond Ward Councillor WDC.
2 members of the public
Chairs remarks: Welcomed all to meeting
2. Minutes Adoption of the February minute was proposed by GC and seconded by JS.
3. Matters arising. Covered in agenda
4. Police and other reports.
Police reported that there had between 129 incidents during the last month. Number of crime reports was 9. Comment was made that this was the lowest for many years, however is was pointed out that the area had had the heaviest snowfall in many years and took over a week to thaw. See report attached to minute.
Mention was made of the new Balloch School Campus with parent cars parked all over the place at 3pm. Noted by police.
In correspondence e-mail stated that Sergeant PS Calum Fulton is taking over our local Community Policing Team.
Other reports
CC Forum. Chair and secy had attended and although better organized, the venue was not ideal. Mostly discussed was problems in Clydebank regarding the Salting high pedestrian walkway. Further discussion with WDC would have to take place to come to a decision whether to demolish and put tarmac path in.
MSP. Chair and Secy met with Jackie Baillie, MSP to discuss the proposed development at West Riverside. Some common concerns were exchanged and we all awaited the planning application before making public comment.
Balloch Buddies. Apathy rains as only 5 people responded to becoming involved. However, some progress was made with suggestions as to what could take place in Balloch Park. An invite to ask Ian Bain to attend our meeting was mooted. Secy to action.
Signage consultation. This was taking place now and all asked to go and see the exhibition in NPHQ foyer.
Maid of the Loch. Secy stated that Lord Smith of Kelvin had become the Patron of the Maid.
Lomond Bridge. Chair stated that Lomond Bridge on the A811 was going to be closed for some time for repairs. All traffic may be going over the Balloch Bridge so the Street Design project and station area was on hold till all details of closures were known.
Licensing Board. Variation in Licence. Change of name from Golden Star Tandoori to Bombay Jocks with updated hours to be in line with other establishments. There were no objections voiced.
Inler Park - Etrust is awaiting word back from SEPA regarding the bunding on the plans. These have been removed and resent. Secy to write to Environment Trust asking if the CC can help in speeding up the process.
5. RIVERsideLIT Walkway ACTION (Form sub committee)
Inler Park Action regarding SEPA’s slow reply to amended plans
Secy read out letters to SEPA, SE and FL regarding the riverside walkway. Suggested was to keep in the public domain the area all the way up the river to the Maid of the Loch for a Lit Riverside Walkway. SEPA reply did not state anything about not allowing a riverside walkway. SE only acknowledged e-mail. FL were concerned that the CC was asking for an area bordering the river not to be sold off. It was decided to form a sub-committee to discuss this fuller.
6. Treasurers Report.
Balance at end of Feb was £2650.19.
No outstanding invoices. Grant application to be sent in by end of March. Awaiting current bank statement.
7. Main Correspondence and council papers
Flamingo land e-mail regarding dates for papers and application to be submitted to NP Planning. Lodge EIA and application during w/c 23rd April 2018. Other papers required by planning would be made ready for submission the previous week. It was commented that at long last the CC would be able to comment on the planning application. Whinny Hill Wood management document had arrived by e-mail this morning we are asked to comment by 8th April. European Championships - meeting notes. NP - preparations for the new camping season, with key changes and improvements to sites. Invite by RSPB to their site a Gartocharn, 24th March. Balloch Signage Consultation, new date of 6th March due to weather. Drumkinnon Wood - letter received explaining the designation of the Wood for development would take into account the policies for a visitor experience area. Other correspondence between CCs on CC matters. Council papers. Secy asked if all still required Council papers to be forwarded to them. All agreed to continue.
8. AOB.
It was asked that the CC purchase a new computer for the secretary. The secretary declined the offer, stating he preferred to use his own equipment, even though getting out of date. Registration of boats on river Leven was suggested as a way to control sunk boats on river. Noted.
Mention was made that there was no photo eye equipment at the local eye clinic and patients had to go to Paisley for eye photograph or pay local optician. Noted.
9 . DONM 4th April 2018, NP HQ at 10am
Police breakdown of Crime Reports
1 Theft by shoplifting x 2 2. Theft x 1. 3. Deer Act 1996 sec 17(1)x1. 4 Breach of the peace x 1
5. Communications Act 2003 x 1 (detected). 6. Vandalism x 1. 7. Theft by housebreaking x 2 (1 detected). Enquiries ongoing on others not detected.
Secy Note - Any item noted can be discussed at next meeting in more detail if wished.
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Agenda
for Balloch & Haldane Community Council
meeting Wednesday 4th April 2018 at 10.00 am till 12.00 noon
in National Park HQ, Carrochan, Balloch.
AGENDA
Chairs welcome
1. Sederunt and Apologies
2. Minutes of Last Meeting
3. Matters arising
4. POLICE and other REPORTS
5. TPO order and RIVERSIDE WALKWAY
6. TREASURER’S REPORT
7. Correspondence
8. AOCB
9. DATE OF NEXT MEETING
April Meeting 2018
Balloch & Haldane Community Council
Minute of 4th April 2018 General Meeting
held at 10.00 am in National Park HQ, Balloch
1. SEDERUNT:
Community Councillors: Murdoch Cameron, MBE Chair; Jim Biddulph, Secretary; Alan Gardner ,treasurer, Jim McQueen, Jan Shields, (part meeting), Gillian Clark, David Keown, Ian Gurr MBE, Alan Sorrell, Alistair Bouttell, Andrew McAulay.
Apologies: Theresa Hollywood ; Sally Page, Ward councillor
Attending: PC David Liddell, Police Scotland.
Brian McQillan, Communities Team WDC
Jos Weale, Press, Reporter
1 member of the public
Chairs remarks: Welcomed all to meeting
2. Minutes
Adoption of the March minute was proposed by IG and seconded by GC with Inler Park report to be added.
3. Matters arising.
Secy apologised for missing report and read out a letter he had sent to Environment Trust regarding the length of time it was taking to start the Inler Park project. Secy was hopeful of more information for May meeting.
4. Police and other reports.
Police reported number of crime reports was 26. See report attached to minute.
An update was asked regarding the 100 trees illegally felled at Lomond Shores. - Enquiries continuing.
JS entered meeting during reports
Other reports
Balloch Rd. IG mentioned the state of Balloch and had contacted WDC about this. He read out a letter stating that the surface, although worn, was acceptable.
Lomond Bridge. Chair reminded the meeting that Lomond Bridge was needing upgraded and would close for repair this year. This had led to all other projects (SUSTRANS, Street design) in Balloch to be delayed until bridge is fixed. Parking spaces at the Moss will however, go ahead.
Flowers JS had met with manager of Greenspace and been told of the cuts. She reported that the TIC beds may be filled by National Park Volunteers, the flower towers be filled by Haldane Youth Services, but the bunkers had still to be decided. She asked if the Community Council could pay for the bunkers. It was explained that the CC had no money for such a request. She questioned if money was spent on a wreath every year, why not the bunkers. It was stated "there was a difference" The wreath was laid on behalf the community by the CC.
Sunken Boats. JS reported she was making enquiries regarding abandoned boats on Monkey Island. Had been told that Raymond Walsh (WDC Roads), was also Harbour Master for WDC. JS also reported erosion on the Island that needed addressed. She will continue her enquiries with the help of a cruising club.
Maid of the Loch. Secy stated that funding for the Maid to Sail again was nearing the point where it had met stage 1 requirement and was ready to go forward to stage 2 of Heritage Lottery Grant application in a couple of months. The recent Regeneration Capital Grant Fund had awarded £950,000 to the project.
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National Park Tourism Conference - Secy and Chair attended this, which highlighted what businesses were achieving in tourist development in the National Park. Chair stated presentations were given by businesses and tourist information on new camping sites within the Park.
5. TPO Order by National park & Riverside Walkway
Secy read out letter from National park regarding a Tree Preservation Order, (TPO) for the Cameron Estate including the promontory at Lomond Shores. This was explained in the letter that over 100 trees being cut down by people at this time unknown and now in the hands of the police.
Types of trees destroyed were listed and an advice sheet included. Discussion on the matter resulted in favour of a TPO order as stated in the letter.
Riverside Walkway - Secy had prepared a discussion document (attached) regarding comments made at the Charrette that a riverside walkway be incorporated in any development of West Riverside. Scottish Enterprise were to be the lead on this as can be read on page 58 of the Charrette Report, the very first action point. Secy stated to keep the discussion document in mind when we eventually get to the planning application.
Date given, as stated last month, for this was week beginning 23rd April.
Communities Team
Chair then asked Brian McQuillan to speak on his position with WDC. He stated he was a Communities Project Worker, part of a Communities Team, under Housing & Employability, Regeneration, Environment & Growth. He explained that his job was help the various organisation within WDC should they require advice on running their organisation. He outlined some examples and offered help to the CC should they need it. Chair thanked Brian for his presentation.
6. Treasurers Report.
Received a remittance advice dated 16th March from WDC for grant for 2017/18 period. Sum deposited to our account was £1766.13 (awaiting Bank statement for end of March). Balance at end of March was £4282.43. A small amount of interest to be added (less than a £1) No outstanding invoices. Grant minuted as part of the rules of grant.
7. Main Correspondence
e-mails re council meeting forwarded. TPO letter, discussed. e-mails regarding flowers in Balloch.
letter sent to NP Planning asking questions regarding Charrette document- for a reply to previous request. Grant received from WDC. Mail regarding closure of Lomond Bridge and knock on of projects being delayed. The Friends e-mail supporting our efforts on riverside walk. Other correspondence was mostly CC notes on tree felling, abandoned boats.
8. AOB.
Reported that fly tipping was taking place on Pier Rd.
9. DONM
2nd May 2018, NP HQ at 10am. Note that AGM follows May meeting.
26 Crimes report: Sex offence, 1, Common assault 5, Police assault 1, Shoplifting 2, Theft 3, Possess Drugs
2, Breach of P. 5, Vandalism 7, Traffic crime 4, Fraud 3, Bail Breach 1, Dangerous dogs Act 1,
Child Neglect 3.
Note: Details of individuals involved in crime are not disclosed to the CC, only the figures.
Under vandalism: Balloch House Hotel was damaged by vandals and undetected at this date.
Agenda
for Balloch & Haldane Community Council
meeting Wednesday 2nd May 2018 at 10.00 am till 11.40am
in National Park HQ, Carrochan, Balloch.
AGENDA
Chairs welcome
Nominations for minute secretary
1. Sederunt and Apologies
2. Minutes of Last Meeting
3. Matters arising (fly tipping)
4. POLICE and other Local REPORTS
4a Flowers in Balloch (Balloch in Bloom) what can we do?
5. Flamingo Land & European Swimming Championships
Planning application still not in (report on meeting with agent).
Report on 11th August swimming festival in Balloch, clean up of Bay area?
6. TREASURER’S REPORT
7. Correspondence
8. AOCB
9. DATE OF NEXT MEETING
AGM follows 11.45am
May Meeting 2018
BALLOCH & HALDANE COMMUNITY COUNCIL
Minute of 2nd May 2018 General Meeting
held at 10am in National Park HQ, Balloch
1. SEDERUNT:
Community Councillors: Murdoch Cameron, MBE Chair, Jim Biddulph, Secretary, Alan
Gardener, Treasurer, Jim McQueen, Jan Shields, Gillian Clark, David Keown, Ian Gurr MBE,
Alan Sorrell (part meeting), Alistair Bouttell, Andrew McAulay (part meeting), Theresa
Hollywood (part meeting), Sally Page, Ward Councillor.
Apologies: representative from Police Scotland.
Chairs remarks: Welcomed all to meeting. Request made for a Minute Secretary, Gillian
Clark volunteered but as unavailable for June meeting Alastair Bouttell will deputise.
2. Minutes.
Adoption of the April minute was proposed by AS and seconded by DK.
3. Matters arising.
Jim B sent email to National Park, Planning supporting TPO at Lomond Shores. WDC Communities Team have informed BHCC that they can help any community group in WDC area. They have produced a list of CC’s in area, CC leaflet and conditions of funding info sheet for CC’s.
4. Police and Other Reports;
no one available from Police today, report forwarded and read out, details noted at end of minutes.
Andy McAulay entered meeting during reports.
JS raised concern about parking on pavements and illegal parking on Drymen Rd during Kilt walk, concern noted, ongoing problem when any major events held in Balloch. DK asked if Balloch Campus could be opened up for additional parking. Jim will email Sally Page to pursue this.
Maid of the Loch. If Stage 2 Heritage Lottery funding approved in September then Maid of the
Loch will come out of the water in November, for refit. If not approved project will be delayed.
NP Partnership Meeting. Murdo, Jim and Jim McQ attended nothing to report other than they updated the Partnership of what was happening and not happening in Balloch.
Balloch Rd. Ian G has contacted Raymond Walsh, WDC re the state of the road surface on Balloch Rd and damage to Roundabout at entrance to Lomond Shores. Balloch Rd resurfacing will now be included in this year’s programme and roundabout repair ASAP.
Vandalism DK has prepared a report on ongoing vandalism in Balloch area by one individual and has sent it to Police Scotland. Letter to be sent to Police re report and need for graffiti to be removed. Sally Page to enquire if Graffiti Squad still operational and request graffiti removed.
4a Flowers in Balloch.
GC had written out to eleven businesses around the Village Square requesting a contribution towards buying bedding plants for two wooden bunkers, unfortunately no response. Jim B to write to WDC regarding unallocated Greenspace budget and copy in all CC’s in WDC and Lomond ward councillors. Jim B has spoken to Ian Bain, Greenspace Manager; he has had a cut to summer staff. CC members have contributed to plants and Haldane Youth Services will plant up bunkers.
5. Flamingo land and European Swimming Championships.
Festival on the Loch will be held in Balloch on Saturday 11/8/18. A parade will assemble at McDonalds finishing at Moss o’ Balloch, 10.30am start time. There will be a pop up orchestra along the way and various artists and performers in the Moss from 11am to 4pm. Contact person Carol Matthews – National Park. Letter from NP confirmed that Charrette
Report will be a material consideration in determining the planning application at West Riverside.
Jim B and Murdo had a meeting with Andy Miller (ILD), a planning application has not been submitted yet.
River Leven. JS has been emailing various organisations re management of boats on the river.
There are moves afoot to put an organisation in place to manage the river between Balloch Bridge and the mouth of the river. Monkey Island owned by Vintage Inns, JS trying to arrange a meeting with them re poor state of island.
6. Treasurer’s Report.
Balance £4180.77, no outstanding invoices.
7. Correspondence.
Secy stated most e-mails correspondence had been forwarded to CC’s. DK on graffiti vandalism, debated. Invite to Partnership meeting. Inler Park delay, secy had sent out a letter to all CC’s explaining this. Letter to NP highlighting Charrette integrated plans with West Riverside FL development and asking for comment, see above. Other mail was WDC’s minutes agendas and report of their meetings. Various e-mails between CC’s.
8. AOCB.
Maid of the Loch, Planning application submitted to site temporary building to act as a waiting room and office. Comment made there was no toilet and no window overlooking the Maid. No objections raised.
9. Date of next meeting.
6.6.18
Sally Page mentioned upcoming National Park elections, forms can be picked up at NPHQ.
Jim B issued paper to all CC’s: Reasons for wanting a West Riverside Walkway gathered from Charrette Report.
Meeting closed 11.30 for AGM.
Crime Report for period 5/4/18 to 1/5/18, 29 offences identified, increase from 26 last month.
Misuse of Drugs Act 5, Theft 6, Theft by shoplifting 3, Fraud 1, Attempted housebreaking 1,
Offensive weapon 1, Vandalism 2, Sec 170 RTA 1988 fail to report 1, Breach of the Peace 2,
Drink in public 1, Assault 4, Attempted theft of motor vehicle 1, Communications Act 2003 1.
Balloch & Haldane Community Council
Annual General Meeting
Wednesday 2nd May 2018
at 11.45am
in NATIONAL PARK HQ,
Carrochan, Balloch
AGM
AGENDA 2018
1. Sederunt and Apologies
2. Minutes of the 2017 AGM
3. Chairperson’s Report, verbal
4. Secretary’s Report, verbal
5. Treasurers Report and Audited Accounts to 31st March 2018
6. Election of office bearers
7. DONAGM May 2019
Please let the Chair know who will be minute secretary, till September.
Annual General
Meeting
May 2018
Balloch & Haldane Community Council
founded September 1998
Annual General Meeting
May 2018
Meetings held first Wednesday of the month
National Park HQ Carrochan, Balloch
Monthly 10am to 12 noon
unless otherwise advertized
Community Council meeting breaks:
No meetings January, July and August unless requested.
Community Councillors
Elected March, 2016 (WDC CC elections)
Office bearers:
re- Elected, May AGM 2017
Chairperson: Murdoch Cameron MBE • Vice Chair: Alistair Bouttell
Secretary: Jim Biddulph • Treasurer: Alan Gardner
Other Community Councillors
Ian Gurr MBE • Andrew McAulay • James McQueen • Theresa Hollywood
David Keown • Gillian Clark • Jan Shields • Alan Sorrell
Community Council Planning Consultations WDC (via internet)
and
Community Council Planning Consultations (National Park Applications)
Planning sub-group meets depending on size of Development plans
Public meeting consultations held at discretion of CC’s
Balloch & Haldane Community Council
Minute of Annual General Meeting 3rd May, 2017
National Park HQ, Carrochan, Balloch
The AGM followed the May General Meeting after a short break at 11.45am
SEDERUNT: Community Councillors: Murdoch Cameron MBE, Chairman; Jim Biddulph, Secretary;
Mr. Alan Gardner, Treasurer; Andrew McAulay, Jim McQueen, Alistair Bouttell, David Keown,
Ian Gurr MBE, Theresa Hollywood, Gillian Clark, Jan Shields.
Apologies: Alan Sorrell, Theresa Hollywood
Chair opened AGM
Minutes
The Minutes of the previous year’s AGM was read and approved by JS and. GC
Chairpersons Report May 2017
Chair gave a verbal report on our activities since May last year stating that the Balloch Charrette proposals were continuing from 2016 into 2017 with SUSTRANS starting consultations on Balloch Street Design. The 62 page Charrette report published May 2016 outlined the wishes of the community in Balloch and B&HCC should keep this in mind during the coming years. A major £30M proposed development in Balloch of West Riverside with a developer called Flamingo Land was announced in September 2016 and this has caused concerns with residents living near the area. We have been told it will be 18 months before anything definite will be proposed. The NP Local Development Plan (Live Park) was in the final stages and would update policies for the areas within the National Park. He thanked all for their attendance at CC meetings over the year and especially the office bearers for enabling meetings to run efficiently over the year. The police were also thanked for monthly reports on crime in the area.
Secretary’s Report
Secretary stated that e-mail correspondence was still the main source of communication. Secy thanked J.McQ for his continued infrastructure reports and reports made on his delegated meetings over the year. A new WDC community council liaison officer is in place and minutes etc. can now be sent to her for uploading on the WDC CC webpage. Also thanks to Officers from various bodies who replied to requests to attend our meetings and gave presentations Secy stated that he was standing down regarding minute taking starting AGM 2018 and would stand down in September 2018 as secretary but remain a community councillor until the next elections. He stated that other members have to start taking up positions as he would not be standing again at CC elections in 2020. September 2018 would be his 20th year as secretary.
Treasurer’s Report—Accounts
AG Treasurer passed round audited accounts and explained the contents to the meeting. These would be forwarded onto WDC for filing. Accounts proposed in turn as correct by IG and seconded by JS
Community Council Elections & Election of Office bearers
All community councillors have been elected as CC’s in March 2016 and are listed on page of AGM papers There has been no resignations. Chair explained that all office bearer positions were open to nominations. The status quo was proposed by IG. Chair enquired if any CC wished to take an office bearer position. Meeting was content with present office bearers and unanimously seconded the proposal.
Constitution
We would continue with our present signed constitution until further advised.
AOCB There being no other business the chair closed the meeting.
DONAGM As per the constitution—May 2018.
BALLOCH & HALDANE COMMUNITY COUNCIL
Minute of Annual General Meeting held on 2nd May 2018
Sederunt
Community Councillors Murdo Cameron, MBE, Chairman, Jim Biddulph, Secretary,
Alan Gardner, Treasurer, Andrew McAulay, Jim McQueen, Alistair Boutell, David Keown, Ian Gurr MBE, Gillian Clark, Jan Shields
Apologies
Alan Sorrell.
Theresa Hollywood left meeting.
Chair opened AGM.
Minutes of previous year’s AGM approved by Ian Gurr and seconded by Jan Shields.
Chairperson’s Report
Murdo reported we have been marking time due to delay in Charrette being actioned due to work required to Lomond Bridge. Awaiting planning application for Flamingo land. Happy with CC’s progress throughout the year and all should continue to keep Jim and Murdo up to date with everything we are doing. Thanks issued.
Secretary’s Report
Secretary reported that e-mails continue to be the main method of correspondence. He had forwarded all CC’s on internet WDC papers on their various committee meetings and other correspondence. Thanks expressed to Jim McQ for various reports he produced throughout the year. Secretary stated that the position of Secretary once again should be addressed as he gave notice last year he planned to stand down. He was pleased that G.Clark had offered to be Minute Secretary.
Treasurer’s Report
Alan Gardner issued copies of audited accounts for financial year ending 31/3/18. Jim Biddulph moved and Alistair Boutell seconded.
Community Council Elections and Election of Office Bearers.
All community councillors have been elected as CC’s in March 2016 and are listed on page of AGM papers. There have been no resignations. Chair explained that all office bearers were open to nominations
Ian Gurr proposed status quo of office bearers, seconded by Gillian Clark. No challenge to office bearers.
Balloch and Haldane Community Council
Minute of 6th June 2018 meeting held at 10am
within National Park Headquarters, Balloch
Chair thanked AB for taking the minutes.
1. Sederunt: Murdoch Cameron MBE(chair) Jim Biddulph,(secretary) Alan
Gardener(treasurer) Jim McQueen, Jan Shields, David Keown, Ian Gurr MBE,
Alistair Bouttell, Andrew McAulay.
Attending: Constable Liddell ( Police Scotland)
Sally Page (ward councillor WDC) and 10 members of the public.
Apologies Alan Sorrell, Theresa Hollywood, Gillian Clark
2. Minutes of last meeting proposed by JS seconded by IG.
3. Matters arising – as per agenda.
4. Reports – Police. For the period 2nd May 2018 until 6th June 2018 for the Balloch and Haldane area there were 30 crime reports raised (16 detected) DK raised matter of vandalism to War Memorial in Christie Park, Alexandria and it was established that one 38 year old male has been charged and reported to Procurator Fiscal.
The matter of youth disorder in Balloch of late was being dealt with as part of Operation Ironworks which covers both East and West Loch Lomond in conjunction with Police Scotland and National Park. Disorder in and around Balloch Railway station was dealt with by British Transport Police. The shelter has been removed from Balloch station to prevent youths gathering there. Patrols will be carried out in Balloch Park and West Riverside. Public was asked to use Crime Stoppers or 101 to report and information which would help to combat disorder in the area, Constable Liddell was thanked for his report and he then left the meeting,
JS reported that bedding plants have been put in the planters in the village square. The toilets at the bus stance are now operational and are very nice indeed. More planting has still to take place around the welcome to Balloch signs.
Chair asked JMcQ about update to Balloch list especially resurfacing work to Drymen Rd and Mollanbowie Rd which was scheduled to have taken place. Pointed out to meeting Council Official dealing with this was off sick and no one had taken up his work.
JB raised point of dredging at Drumkinnon Bay leaving two sandbanks in loch and piles of sand and gravel in picnic area and car park. Letter sent to Lomond Shores.
Apparently dredging was preparation for European Swimming Championships and work had been stopped. The mess in the picnic area was to be reinstated by company responsible and were asked that more sand be put on the shore. This cannot happen due to SEPA rules.
5. Flamingo Land development.
Chair announced that 29 letters had been received to hold emergency meeting of C.C. and this had been arranged for Wednesday 20th June 2018 from 6.45pm to 8.45pm within National Park Building. Notes will be taken from the Public and listen to their concerns, Minutes would appear on WDC website. JB pointed out the charrette plans and suggested ScotEnt should change part of West Riverside to public domain Highlighting chalets along riverside. Member of the public pointed out SEPA objections to development along riverside. A discussion took place re walkway on riverside. The Chair then allowed members of the public present to address the meeting of their concerns. Thee public were thanked for their input.
6. Treasurer – Balance £4036.80. Nothing outstanding.
7. A.O.C.B.
J.McQ proposed vote of thanks to chair and secy, for their recent local awards for 20 years of service to the community - The Hannah Stirling National Park Award 2018. He also reported that Loch Lomond Festival preparations were progressing nicely details would be on a Facebook page,
DK pointed out a planning application from Cameron House to use south entrance to the estate which would mean traffic would use this entrance while construction traffic would use north entrance while reconstruction of hotel was taking place. Pointed out this was outwith our CC area.
Thanks was given to the head of St Kessog’s, part the new Balloch Campus for the CC visit.
DK asked if there could be a live broadcast of public meeting. No objections.
Date of next meeting 5th September 2018.
Recorded crimes 30 reports 16 detected. 1 robbery,2 sexual assaults,12 common assaults,2 poss knives/off.
Weapons, 4 theft shoplifting,1 theft/att.theft m/v, 5 theft, 3 poss drugs, 8 breach of peace/disorder, 3 vandalism, 1 vehicle/traffic crime,1 breach of bail,1 drinking in public.
Town and Country Planning
(Scotland Act 2006)
Representations of Balloch & Haldane Community Council
to application 2018/0133/PPP
Planning application 2018/0133/PPP In principle
The erection and operation of a tourism and leisure led mixed use development including hotel, bunkhouse accommodation and self-catering holiday lodges; self catering boathouse accommodation; residential development; leisure and recreational facilities including swimming pool, water park, visitor reception and education/interpretation facilities; hot food/café restaurant uses; brewery; ancillary uses including retail; façade retention of Woodbank House and conversion of existing outbuildings; public realm enhancements including public square improvements, footpaths and cycleways; external activity areas including forest adventure rides, tree top walkway, monorail, events/performance areas, picnic areas and play areas; staff and service areas; landscaping; new access from Ben Lomond Way and Pier Road; and site development infrastructure (including SUDS, and parking). Land At Pier Road, Ben Lomond Way And Old Luss Road, Known As West Riverside And Woodbank House, Balloch.
Balloch & Haldane Community Council (B&HCC) make the following statements regarding this application. It is not just a case of supporting or objecting to this application, reasons have to be given.
The Community Council (CC) acknowledges that this is a major development for the Balloch area, with many aspects to it. The economic benefits of such a major development should not be ignored by the community in Balloch and the Vale of Leven. B&HCC have found it difficult to give this application a balanced view, due to the negative comments started on social media, some 18 or so months ago, and continuing right up until the developers submitted this, in principle, application and is still continuing.
B&HCC have taken into account the objections from local people and the considerable amount from people who do not live in our CC area. We have taken on board what they are saying, but most of what is stated is based on misinformation with unsubstantiated comments and most of the objectors comments having no policy weight in planning decisions. The CC has to consider this application based on the policies for the area, we have in the past, already agreed on.
This development has to be measured with what might be lost should such a development receive planning permission or even what will be lost if the development does not receive planning permission. Comments made to the CC state: The area of West Riverside is like an overgrown garden in most places, unmanaged for decades, only the grass is cut, tree saplings everywhere. There seems to be a movement of thought that the Balloch community wish it to be left like this. If so the time to object was at the Local Development Plan consultation.
There have been many objections from near neighbours to the development and B&HCC have noted their comments also. But we do not normally get involved in near neighbour disputes regarding planning issues. But will be highlight their concerns.
Luss Rd residents have concerns on traffic, noise, pollution, flooding in the area if Woodbank is developed and Drumkinnon Gate residents do not wish chalets near the periphery of their homes, stating noise, disturbance, traffic congestion, wildlife disturbance, woodland destroyed.
Park officers will decide through policy, which points are valid and which are not in this development. All may be valid to the community objecting.
The Local Development Plan with its policies for the area is something B&HCC cannot ignore, as the policies within it have been consulted on locally over a number of years and signed off by a government minister. B&HCC have looked at the policies for Balloch, of relevance to the application are:
VE1, VE4, TR1, MU1 also PP.
The policies for Balloch can be found in the Local Development Plan 2017-2021 with Section 4 of the plan used by Park Planning to guide and determine planning applications for these areas.
As the public seem unaware that this is just a stage in many more applications to come for this development, the following paras are included for your information.
The Application for In principle Planning Permission is generally used to find out, at an early stage, whether or not a proposal is likely to be approved by the planning authority, before any substantial costs are incurred.
This type of planning application allows fewer details about the proposal to be submitted. These details may be agreed following a "reserved matters" application at a later stage.
Reserved matters can include:
• appearance - aspects of a building or place which affect the way it looks, including the exterior of the development
• means of access - covers accessibility for all routes to and within the site, as well as the way they link up to other roads and pathways outside the site
• landscaping - the improvement or protection of the amenities of the site and the area and the surrounding area, this could include planting trees or hedges as a screen
• layout - includes buildings, routes and open spaces within the development and the way they are laid out in relations to buildings and spaces outside the development
• scale - includes information on the size of the development, including the height, width and length of each proposed building
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Some of B&HCC’s comments on the various areas of the development, may seem as objections, but the comments are made in the hope that the developer adjusts the plans to accommodate the suggestions made, both by us and the general public who have written to support or object. Failure to compromise may not be supported at the next stage. B&HCC think the developer should be given the opportunity to amend their plans.
The following input from B&HCC is kept in lay mans terms as much as possible as we are not planners. We trust the Planning Department to ensure that the development meets the requirements of planning policy. That from our following comments, policy, material considerations and reserved matters will be gleaned.
The comment, ‘reserve the right to further comment when full detailed plans are submitted’. Is dependent on the planning board approving the application at this stage.
Now to the ‘in principle’ application at hand.
Woodbank, Zone E, areas 12 and 13 including 3c, 3d
B&HCC have agreed to support the Woodbank part of the in principle application as the area is a designated site for tourism development (VE4 policies). However, the community council would have liked to see more being done to the ‘A’ Grade listed building other than just the façade repaired. It maybe a ruin at present but important enough to be ‘A’ graded.
Concern from residents nearby regarding local Road infrastructure. B&HCC have to abide with what WDC Roads reports says about traffic on the approach roads to this site and that National Park Planning may/will accept ‘Roads’ opinion. The road is a public road. Housing on this site is determined within the National Park policies for the area. Area 3d. Tourist accommodation noted as subject to future planning.
Balloch & Haldane Community Council support, in principle, the Woodbank aspect of the development. There may be reserved matters to discuss should this area be approved by planning. Planning should take note of local residents concerns and address them.
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Land known as West Riverside Zones A, B, C, D
B&HCC have reservations regarding some of these zone areas on West Riverside, really need more detailed plans.
Station House, development entrance, Zone A Area 1 and 2 (MU1 Policies)
Parking at the Tourist Information Centre area will be lost. But there will be allocations at a new car park on Pier Rd. Whether this will continue to be free or metered is unknown to us at this time. But B&HCC suggest free parking.
B&HCC are of the opinion that along with the SUSTRANS Street Design Plans and ILD’s plans for this area, the Station House entrance and roads would be vastly improved. Noted as PP (Place making priority in the local plan)
Other proposed buildings on this site will be decided by separate detailed planning applications, which have still to be applied for and approved.
B&HCC are of the opinion to support, in principle, this area of the development, but reserve the right to further comment when full detailed plans are submitted.
West Riverside, Zone B area 3a (VE1 policies)
The indicative blue line on the plan states this is to indicate pedestrian and cycle linkages to the north end of West Riverside, by all means have this as an added route, but this is not what the community in Balloch want as the only route.
B&HCC are somewhat confused, in that the Balloch Charrette Report, including the Action Plan, which recommended that a developer should incorporate aspects of this report within their plans, is not there.
The CC are of the opinion that the Riverside Walkway be given due consideration, as being of ‘a material consideration’ in the determination of this planning application for this 3a area at West Riverside.
In considering this Action point of the Balloch Charrette Report, the Community Council acknowledge that the Charrette document shows the walkway at near river level and this may prove to be, not feasible, or affordable at this time. However, there is already a high level path overlooking the river with access to the various cruising club pontoons from Sweeney’s to the INEOS pipeline, this could be extended to the ‘Maid of the Loch’ as shown in plans within the Charrette Report. This is what the local community wish as stated within the charrette document.
B&HCC state that this high level path be the site of the New Riverside Walkway to be incorporated, as a condition, into ILD’s plans should they receive in principle planning permission and could combine a cycle track, appropriately marked and the John Muir route through the development by the river. There could also be an opportunity for local businesses to have a presence on this riverside area as stated within the Charrette Report. Scottish Enterprise was to be the lead in this action and as joint applicant to this development have a duty to honour the Riverside Walkway, they supported.
Although perhaps not a planning issue, it is relevant to the area. This stretch of land should it incorporate a high level New Riverside Walkway with access to the pontoons on the river, should be kept in the public domain and not sold. ScotEnt have in the past indicated their willingness to hand over their rights to the river to West Dunbartonshire Council but would have to include the area of land required for the walkway to allow access to the pontoons. The above had to be said in this report because of the great concern shown to B&HCC by the boat owners on the west bank of the river Leven. This riverside area should remain in the public domain to protect the rights of those who have used this area for decades. The CC can only highlight the concerns of the community and hopefully this is listened to by the powers that be to make changes. Perhaps looked at under Policy for Human Rights.
B&HCC are of the opinion to support, in principle, this area of the development, but reserve the right to further comment when full detailed plans are submitted, with consideration made to comments regarding the Charrette Report.
Areas 4a and 4b in Zones B, D of the development supported
Managed woodland. Can only improve the areas shown.
Zone C Areas, 5, 6, 7 (still VE1 policies)
5. Pier head visitor destination.
Subject to future planning detail.
Many objections to the building being so close to the "Bay". Locals have been using this area for picnics for decades and area 5 seems to encroach on this. B&HCC will be requesting that the public will have unrestricted access to this area at all times and any building in this area does not encroach on the shoreline.
There are no detailed plans as is usual in ‘In principle’ applications and acceptance of this building, its design and finish will no doubt be shown in detail when submitted at next stage. B&HCC reserve the right to make relevant comments on this aspect of the development, should it progress.
In principle supported, subject to stated above.
6. Car parking and visitor attraction.
Subject to future planning detail.
This again is the unknown. Car parking will be crucial in this development. The present indicative artists impression shows a massive area taken up by this. On a busy day the boat launching traffic could fill this area alone. Parking could scupper this application. Should the ‘Maid of the Loch’ sail again, it is noted that there is only parking for Staff. Where do buses go, customer cars. This whole parking issue is a contentious one.
This aspect of the development has to achieve something better in any future plans. B&HCC concurs with local opinion that this area will be a free for all looking for parking spaces. There is also the possibility that charging may be introduced. There has always been free parking in this area, but a private developer could change this.
In principle supported with reservations and requiring a better design re car parking. This may require a smaller development in this area.
7. Multi User Public Realm.
Subject to future planning detail.
A bit vague as what this will finally entail.
Cannot make comment on what is unknown at this time.
In principle supported, reserving the right to comment on any future design plans.
Zone D Drumkinnon Wood (No numbered policy)
The Local Development Plan shows no policy number for this location within their current Plan, 2017-2021. This area has been left more or less unmanaged for decades. It is a wood, but not an Ancient wood now.
Public opinion is that this remains undisturbed. The National Park’s other policies for visitor experience and visitor destination projects may cover this and B&HCC would leave this to Park planners to justify this area being used in the development. Much has been said regarding this area with many hundreds of objections particular to this area. The developer should take note of this and modify plans for this area.
In principle supported but full support of this area dependent on further public opinion relevant to planning policies overruling use of this area . If in principle application granted for whole development, what area(s), if any, would the developer be willing leave out of the plans. Planning officers should take note of the 4 aims of the park should there be no policy for this area.
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Final comments
B&HCC were divided in supporting (In Principle) this development. It was decided on 75% community councillors supporting and 25% totally against. As can be seen by comments the 75% were not fully happy with all aspects of the development and echoed public concerns. Some thought it was too large for Balloch, but perhaps acceptable on a smaller scale. Parking, congestion, road infrastructure surrounding Balloch another contentious issue.
Public opinion was listened to and was and passionately stated not to do anything to the various areas. They listed everything from the wildlife: flora, fauna, parking, congestion, A82 congestion. Too many chalets. Loss of public areas, riverside moorings could be lost, public areas/access lost.
However, consideration was given that a possible development with a considerable amount of funds could make this area much better, or parts of it better. We are of the opinion that the various areas need not be sold but these areas leased to a developer, especially keeping the riverside in the public domain for the benefit of all local people and boat owners who use the pontoons. B&HCC highlights the Charrette document as more to what the community in Balloch are wanting, mentioning a New high level riverside walk all the way up to the ‘Maid’. Not all Charrette aspirations possible, but some could have been incorporated within the Developers plans. They were not.
B&HCC supporting ‘in principle’ the application was mainly viewed on what the Local Development Plan states for this area - Visitor Experience. We abide by its contents, which B&HCC supported at consultation. The developers were obviously advised what they could put on this site in accordance with the Local Plan.
In supporting B&HCC allows all to see what the developer can come up with different, should National Park board decide to grant the ‘In principle’ application. The developer, may, having seen the hundreds of objections and withdraw at this stage. A win for the objectors, but could be an economic loss for the community in Balloch. It should be remembered decisions will be made based on policy for the area. The policy is for tourist development.
B&HCC hope in supporting the application that the developer(s) not forgetting Scottish Enterprise who are a joint applicant, come up with something in their detailed plans that are more acceptable to all. The sale of the land should be reconsidered by ScotEnt to that of leasing.
B&HCC again reiterate: We trust the Planning Department to ensure that the development meets the requirements of planning policy. That from our comments, policy, material considerations and reserved matters will be gleaned. That public opinion be taken into account relevant to the application.
B&HCC could have stated that we neither support nor object to this application and said little other than that.
We decided on a vote to support the application (in principle) with all the above comments. In writing comments on the various areas we hope Park Planning, if passing this application, break it down into areas that can be fully objected to or supported in future.
We wish National Park planning officers and board well in their deliberations. The decision is up to you.
Balloch & Haldane Community Council
28 June 2018.
Agenda
for Balloch & Haldane Community Council
meeting Wednesday 5th September 2018 at 10.00 am till 12 noon
in National Park HQ, Carrochan, Balloch.
AGENDA
Chairs welcome
- Sederunt and Apologies
- Minutes of Last Meeting
- Matters arising
- UPDATE ON BALLOCH UPGRADE
Michael McGuinness (West Dunbartonshire Council)
Lomond Bridge possible closure. Balloch Square and Train station area upgrade - Secy reports and correspondence.
Consultation of Haldane School ground for housing.
Data protection Act.
Public meeting Notes 20th June and B&HCC response to In principle application.
Friends of Loch Lomond response to In principle application from FL.
Cameron House temp application to use South Lodge entrance.
Festival Day 11 Aug. - POLICE (Chair may take after item 4) and other Local REPORTS (Inler Park delay)
- TREASURER’S REPORT
- AOCB
- DATE OF NEXT MEETING
September Meeting 2018
BALLOCH & HALDANE COMMUNITY COUNCIL
Minute of 5th September 2018 General Meeting
held at 10am in National Park HQ, Balloch
SEDERUNT:
Community Councillors: Murdoch Cameron, MBE Chair, Jim Biddulph, Secretary, Alan Gardener, Treasurer, Jim McQueen, Jan Shields, Gillian Clark, minute secretary, David Keown, Ian Gurr MBE, Alan Sorrell, Alistair Bouttell,
Attending: Sally Page, Ward Councillor, PC’s David McFarlane and David Watson, Police Scotland, Michael McGuiness, WDC.
Apologies: Theresa Hollywood and Andrew McAulay.
Murdo welcomed everyone back and hoped we all had a good break and thanked everyone who had worked over the break.
Minutes of last meeting approved by Jan Shields and seconded by David Keown. Jim McQueen suggested minutes of last meeting be amended to show the actual award granted to Murdo and Jim B for service to the community over 20 years –The Hannah Stirling National Park Award.
Matters Arising.
Application from Cameron House to use South entrance to estate while construction works ongoing. Secy mentioned objection received from resident to this and was advised the application was outwith our boundary. It is only a temporary application to use what is already a public road, traffic calming measures will be put in place and pavement upgraded.
BHCC do not get involved in near neighbour complaints and it was felt it was more important to get Cameron House up and running again, application recommended for approval by LLTNP officers.
Michael McGuiness, WDC, gave an update on Charrette and Sustrans proposals.
Lomond Bridge needs extensive works lasting about 6+ months, funding secured, to start winter 2019.
Village Square, works to be carried out Jan to June 19, two way traffic to continue and five car parking spaces will be created on Main Rd, including disabled parking. Work being programmed around planned events, Kilt Walk etc. The formal diversion will be through Jamestown, although it is recognised traffic will go through Balloch.
Additional 31 spaces to be created in Moss o Balloch through reconfiguration of current layout at the rear car park and additional spaces on the road in.
Ian Gurr raised issue of illegal parking in Balloch, representatives from Police Scotland stated they would deal with it as and when they could. Jim B raised question about overnight parking of camper vans in the Moss car parks. Michael unaware of this. Station Square on hold until ILD progresses. Balloch Road West, road to be narrowed and additional parking created, road to be tarmacked by end of March 2019.
Michael left meeting.
Police Report delivered for period 6/6/18 to 29/8/18.
70 crime reports raised, 35 detected. 50%
Stated an individual has been charged for illegal tree felling at Lomond Shores and a further individual for vandalism to War Memorial at Christie Park.
PC’s Watson and McFarlane left meeting.
Secretary Report
Data Protection Act. Secy has received a request for minutes of public meeting held in June Re ILD, he provided what was said by the individual who made the request, but would need written permission from the other individuals who spoke to quote what they said.
Correspondence Report
Dredging at Drumkinnon Bay, contact was made with Loch Lomond Shores manager who in turn contacted LLTNPA, signs were erected but unfortunately there was a fatality. Request was made for buoys to be sited there, unable to be done but a Park Ranger was in attendance on busy weekends.
Secy to write to Head of Planning, LLTNPA to now fill in dredged area.
Tree cut down on Drymen Rd was under a TPO, but was removed with permission as it was diseased.
Community Transport Provision, Alan S attended meeting, 4/9/18, initiative to set up where there is a lack of suitable transport available. Grant of £100,000 available to WDC. Currently trying to set up a group, 2 volunteers from each of the six wards in the area required, successful group currently running in Linnvale.
BHCC meeting held after public meeting re ILD. B&HCC report made in conjunction with Local Plan and Charrette, aims, visitor experience and tourism.
Woodbank area in private ownership, not public land.
National Park will determine where visitor experience begins and ends within the local plan document on West Bank development from policies for the area.
Friends of Loch Lomond have produced a report supporting the development.
Response from Alan McMullen re Inler Park. Had been delayed waiting for planning consent from SEPA, plans have had to be amended, now back on track. Murdo will speak to Alan McM to arrange date to view amended plans. Alan S raised concern about erosion of budget. Request to be made to Alan McM to produce report on delays to Inler Park.
Gillian left meeting at 12 noon.
Treasurer reported the balance at end of August 2018 to be £3246.42.
A remembrance wreath costing £41 including postage will be purchased for laying at the Cenotaph at Christie Park in November.
Meeting closed 12.10.
Remainder of minutes of BHCC Meeting held on 5/9/18 take by AB after GC left meeting.
Treasurers Report Balance £3246.42. No outstanding invoices.
Permission was granted to purchase a wreath for Armistice Day. Alister Bouttell will represent CC at War Memorial, Christie Park.
£20 donation to be made to Loch Lomond Association of which CC is a corporate member.
Alan Gardener reminded CC that this was the Centenary of the end of World War One.
Chair then intimated that Church services were being held at Bonhill and Alexandria North
Parish Churches at 10.45 on Armistice Day and there was a service at the War Memorial, Christie Park at 3pm and a further service at 7pm at Alexandria North Church, the Church will be floodlit with Projection of poppies on the walls. There will be a museum of WW1 artefacts in the church.
Councillor Page intimated that Gartocharn were having a piper play at 6am on Armistice Day followed by a bugler and a beacon also being lit, she suggested Balloch might do similar.
Thereafter followed a discussion about Armistice Day celebrations but final details to be made.
AOCB.
Ian Gurr intimated that this year the Highland Games in Balloch were an outstanding success, this was helped by the good weather and ground condition in the Moss o Balloch Park.
Date of next meeting 3rd October 2018
Agenda
for Balloch & Haldane Community Council
meeting Wednesday 3rd October 2018 at 10.00 am till 12 noon
in National Park HQ, Carrochan, Balloch.
AGENDA
Chairs welcome
1. Sederunt and Apologies
2. Minutes of Last Meeting
3. Matters arising
4. Ian Bain (West Dunbartonshire Council Greenspace)
Balloch Park, flower beds
5. Consultation of Haldane School ground for housing
This takes place this afternoon in Mill Cabin. All should attend.
6. POLICE and other Local REPORTS (Inler Park)
7. Correspondence
8. TREASURER’S REPORT
9. AOCB
10. DATE OF NEXT MEETING
October Meeting 2018
BALLOCH & HALDANE COMMUNITY COUNCIL
Minute of 3rd October 2018 General Meeting
held at 10am in National Park HQ, Balloch
1. SEDERUNT:
Community Councillors: Murdo Cameron, MBE Chair, Jim Biddulph, Secretary, Alan Gardner, Treasurer, Jim McQueen, Jan Shields, Gillian Clark, David Keown, Alan Sorrell, Ian Gurr MBE, Alistair Boutell, Sally Page, Ward Councillor, Andy McAulay, Ian Bain(WDC Greenspace Manager), Alan McMullen (WDET)
Apologies: Theresa Hollywood
Murdo welcomed everyone to the meeting.
Minutes missing from end of last meeting after G Clark left meeting early, remaining minutes taken by A Boutell, will be added on.
D. Keown brought up missing agenda item, declaration of interest to be declared at meetings.
Alan McMullen (WDET) entered meeting.
Minutes proposed By D Keown and Seconded by J Shields.
Matters Arising
Lomond Bridge closure, will parking restrictions be in place on Tullichewan Rd, double yellow lines may be put in place. Dalvait Rd, double parking, noted as concern. Raymond Walsh to be invited to future meeting.
Ian Bain gave the following report: Play area at slipway in Balloch Park, independent annual inspection raised several issues, plans underway to redevelop it.
Wooden play area in Moss o Balloch, incident over summer, contractors have done assessment and it is repairable, discussion to take place over feasibility of repair or replacement. A McMullen and A Bain to take forward.
Shore path resurfacing, successful candidate was Greenlight, has had to be put back out to tender.
Bridge from Moss car park into park, work starting 3 or 4/10/18, culvert with handrails.
Balloch Castle, list of options being looked at and how they could be financed, toilets due to reopen.
Michelle Lynn, (WDC Assets Manager) to be invited to next meeting to update on what is happening to Balloch Castle, Charrette etc.
Balloch Park Entrance, signs being developed for all entrances to Balloch Park, will point out all attractions in the park. G Clark asked if more attention could be given to Patrick Muir’s woodcarvings, advised there is a map of them on google maps.
Paths for All have funding of up to £1000 to improve access to Park.
Planters in Village Square will remain; we can revisit these once all works carried out.
J Biddulph mentioned overgrowth of saplings beside Walled Garden, Ian will look into this.
Breaks in wall at rear of McDermids, to be passed onto Raymond Walsh. Face of walkway along riverbank to be attended to.
D Keown asked, re Inler Park, what is WDC policy on use of quad bikes in park – not allowed. Council can deal with this and they can be reported to the Police but has to come from Council. Secretary to write to Police expressing concerns.
Trees in park at Carmona Dr needing attention, can be looked at (WDC).
WDC Management rules will be displayed in Parks when ready.
Drainage in Moss to be looked at in spring.
Consultation of Haldane School Grounds housing, meeting today 3pm – 7pm in Mill Cabin. D Keown asked if mature Oak trees will be protected at Haldane school.
Report on Inler Park from Alan McMullen. Delays have been due to SEPA and WDC Planning Dept, works put out to tender on 28/9/18, to be submitted by 31/10/18. Costing plan issued £306,000.
J McQueen left meeting.
Inler Park plans issued will be e mailed to J Biddulph for issue to all councillors.
Full package should be known by end of November and work should start Feb/March. WDC to be responsible for maintenance once built, I Gurr raised concerns of management of facilities, S Page to take forward. BHCC to consult with S Page once up and running.
A McMullen left meeting.
Infrastructure Report to be forwarded to Raymond Walsh, he will be invited to Feb meeting.
Correspondence
Saturday 27/10/18 10am to 3.30pm, Community Partnership Gathering, Arrochar Village Hall, D Keown to confirm if he can attend.
New Manager at Lomond Shores.
No planning permission required to paint gable ends (Bombay Jocks). Could be looked at at next Local Development Plan Review. J Biddulph to write to Council hoping that any future artworks be referred to LLTNP Planning.
Reports of flies nuisance coming from Greenlight, WDC currently dealing with this.
Saturday 27/10/18 9.30 – 4pm, WDC Planning Training, Clydebank Town Hall.
Email received for Bob Cook, Planning, LLTNP, trench at Drumkinnon Bay Area left after dredging for Glasgow 18, tenders being sought to reinstate area and also seeking approval from SEPA.
Suzanne Greer (1/10/18) awaiting response from WDC Legal Dept re petition to call for an Extraordinary Meeting to call for a vote of no confidence in BHCC.
Change of polling stations, only change will be non-retention of Alexandria North Church, which will amalgamate with St Kessogs.
S Page read out letter from Clydebelt, has concerns over private ownership of Salent of River Leven, free access to West Riverbank could be lost, could only be for rich with second homes. Lomond Shores called into question, empty stores, failed fake castle, they are objecting to development.
Treasurer’s Report
£3028.86, no outstanding invoices.
Jan requested business cards for BHCC, permission granted and costs will be refunded, Jan to coordinate.
I Gurr will organise bunting for Village Square next summer.
Lomond Shores, entrance to be created for upstairs area.
Murdo will phone Police to remind them of meetings as no representation today.
Murdo closed meeting 12.05pm
BALLOCH & HALDANE COMMUNITY COUNCIL
Minute of 7th November 2018 General Meeting
held at 10am in National Park HQ, Balloch
1. SEDERUNT:
Community Councillors: Murdo Cameron, MBE Chair, Jim Biddulph, Secretary, Alan Gardner, Treasurer, Jim McQueen, Gillian Clark, David Keown, Ian Gurr MBE, Alistair Boutell, Andy McAulay, Theresa Hollywood
Apologies: Jan Shields, Alan Sorrell and Sally Page.
Representative from Police Scotland and 2 members of public
Murdo welcomed everyone to the meeting.
Murdo and Jim gave update on Planning Meeting they had attended at Clydebank Town Hall.
A new Development Plan had been issued which is up for discussion over the next three years.
Minutes of previous meeting.
Moved by Ian Gurr and seconded by Andy McAulay.
Petitioners request for Special Meeting, Chairman’s decision whether granted. Petition received re vote of no confidence in BHCC.
Motion rejected.
Member of public repeatedly requested date of our constitution, and who had signed it, informed 2000, WDC have a copy. A heated discussion followed and three members of LLTNP staff who had been alerted by the noise coming from our room entered . Police sergeant who was in attendance as normal to give monthly crime report asked member of public to quieten down and to listen to what we were saying. Two members of public left meeting at 10.20am.
Police report given for period 1/10/18 to 5/11/18. 38 crimes reported, 14 detected.
Left meeting.
Contact details
Crimestoppers 0800 555 111.
Communities Sergeant Brian Simpson, based in Alexandria can be contacted on 101
Communities Inspector Roddy MacNeil, based in Dumbarton on 01389 822028 and following email addresses
LomondCPT@scotland.pnn.police.co.uk
LevenCPT@scotland.pnn.police.co.uk and
DumbartonCPT@scotland.pnn.police.co.uk
Discussion re hiring of postbox at Strathleven House, decision made to enquire if WDC will operate a mail collection service on our behalf, also look at cost of P.O.box.
Maid of the Loch, Jim B declared an interest.
Statement read out from John Beveridge, Chairman, re refusal of funding from Heritage Lottery Fund. Further funding could now be in jeopardy because of this. Chair to write letter of support on behalf of BHCC. HLF funding to be reapplied for.
Theresa raised question re lack of equipment at VOL Hospital for her treatment, she has to go to RAH, Paisley, she has contacted Jackie Baillie re this. Equipment was to be transferred to VOL Hospital by October, hadn’t happened so she wrote again, expected to be available by end of October, if doesn’t materialise will write again, will update at December meeting.
WD Forum attended by Jim and Murdo and current criticism from member of public discussed.
WDC’s New Development Plan discussed, Flamingo Land and new housing at Haldane School.
Plan can be viewed on WDC website, Jim B mentioned only objection could be that Dalreoch junction be improved.
Correspondence
Elaine Troup, WDC, complaints from petitioners re BHCC
1. Allegations of collusion with WDC.
2. Allegation of change to constitution.
3. Acted outwith code of conduct re Flamingo Land. Agreed that a meeting will be held with WDC to answer complaint.
New TPO, No. 10/2018, in place at National Park Gateway Centre.
Royal Mail, if any scam mail delivered then it should be returned to them to investigate.
David K submitted photos of flooding at Inler Park last year.
Email from Jan re David to be carried forward to next meeting as Jan on holiday.
Treasurers Report. Balance £2916.66, no outstanding invoices.
AOCB
Jim B received phone call from Sally Page, has not given away any confidential information to petitioners, any comments were from our public meeting.
Meeting closed 11.55.
Date of next meeting 5/12/18.
Agenda
for Balloch & Haldane Community Council
meeting Wednesday 5th December 2018 at 10.00 am till 12 noon
in National Park HQ, Carrochan, Balloch.
AGENDA
Chairs welcome
Nominations for Secretary
- Sederunt and Apologies
- Minutes of Last Meeting
- Matters arising
- 2nd Petitioners request for Special meeting
- Police report & other reports
- Meeting with EDC Officers
Five allegations addressed- David Keown request, carried from last month.
- Correspondence PO box & Newsletter
- Treasurers report
- AOCB
- Date of next meeting
Note there is no January meeting.
December Meeting 2018
BALLOCH & HALDANE COMMUNITY COUNCIL
Minute of 5th December 2018 General Meeting
held at 10am in National Park HQ, Balloch
1. SEDERUNT: Community Councillors: Murdo Cameron, MBE Chair, Jim Biddulph, Secretary, Alan Gardner, Treasurer, Jim McQueen, Gillian Clark, David Keown, Ian Gurr MBE, Jan Shields, Alistair Boutell, Andy McAulay, Theresa Hollywood, Brian McQuillan, WDC Community Team, Sally Page, PC’s Gemma Sloan and Lucy McNulty. Apologies: Alan Sorrell.
Murdo welcomed everyone and apologised for raised voices at last month’s meeting.
Brian McQillan from WDC Community Team introduced himself.
Murdo stated Jim Biddulph was standing down as Secretary, invited nominations, Jan Shields put herself forward, unanimously adopted as new Secretary. Jim B welcomed Jan to her new role, Jim will remain as a CC and support everyone as required. Murdo thanked Jim B for all his hard work.
Minutes of last meeting. Sally Page pointed out Roddy MacNeil has moved on, new Communities Inspector Mo Boyle.
Acceptance of Minutes moved by Alastair B and seconded by Ian G.
No Matters Arising.
Jim B read out petitioners request for special meeting.
Police Officers Sloan and McNulty entered room 10.13am.
Murdo stated that there was no point in holding a meeting until new plans had been submitted. Letter sent to Mr Perrie advising this. Jim B stated we will need to decide whether we accept petitions under our Constitution and next AGM. Copy of current Constitution to be placed in Balloch Library. Jan asked if all CC’s have the same Constitution, Murdo explained first job of a CC is to draw up a Constitution based on the model Constitution, can all be slightly different.
Sara Cunningham was police officer in attendance at last meeting.
Police officers gave crime report for period 5/11/18 to 3/12/18, 18 crime reports raised. They left meeting at 10.25am.
Inler Park, tenders returned exceeded £300,000 approx. available. Quantity Surveyor now has to remove items to reduce costs. Project has been delayed by 1 year due to planning issues.
Maid of the Loch, two pumps have been donated, over 50 years old so requiring work. Café now stripped back to a shell to be rebuilt over winter and reopen next summer. £400,000 was spent on paperwork over last two years to submit application to HLF.
Bunting to be put up in Village Square subject to WDC planning permission.
Report on meeting with WDC to deal with complaints re no confidence in BHCC. WDC had been accused of collusion with BHCC re delay in dealing with petitions. Elaine stated paperwork had been destroyed in move to paperless office, they did not have a copy of our Constitution. Petition had taken 1 month to get to us (see minutes attached). Jim B stated he had found the minutes of BHCC’s Inaugural meeting of 21/10/98, Model Constitution adopted at this meeting, our constitution was taken from the Scheme of Establishment. Constitution is sound.
Murdo stated he would like things to settle down between BHCC and Drumkinnon residents.
Jim asked what the code of conduct is regarding conduct of visitors to our meetings.
Post box to be rented at Strathleven House for a trial period of 3 months at cost of £240 plus VAT per annum.
Generic email address set up 3797bhcc@gmail.com and Jim B happy to answer calls coming to BHCC until all departments aware of new contact.
Newsletter produced by Jim B, printing costs £300 - £350 plus delivery costs ( still to be explored). David K suggested addition of when our meetings are held and Brian McQuillan suggested we explain the role of CC’s. Newsletter to be printed and distributed in New Year.
New planning laws come in to force in Feb 19.
Treasurers Report.
Balance £2793.58, no outstanding invoices. Alan G added there is new guidance on Grant conditions, we are now required to produce minutes/bank statements/annual accounts, whether applying for a grant or not, Alan has a copy of guidance issued by WDC.
Small wood is going to be developed at Whinney Hill.
Sally Page suggested we invite a NP planner to come to one of our meetings and explain planning laws, invitation to be sent.
Murdo left meeting at 12 noon, Alastair took over as Chairman.
David K requested carry over of item 5(a) of Agenda to next meeting.
Date of next meeting 6/2/19.